Istio Ambient Mesh and

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Bret and Nirmal welcome Idit Levine, Founder/CEO Idit focuses on Service Mesh, API-GW and Multi-Cloud networking, and security.

Idit has been involved in the Containers/DevOps community for 10+ years, building products from Docker to Envoy to Kubernetes, and now Istio and Cilium. We talk about Istio, Ambient Mesh, Envoy, Zero-Trust Security, Cilium, eBPF, Multi-Cloud and more.

This is not the first time we've talked about Solo or Service Mesh. Ambient Mesh is Solo's new product that simplifies the install and infrastructure costs of essentially running Istio.

I'm really hopeful that this is going to help a lot more people implement Istio because traditionally, it does have a lot of parts and a lot of costs with the sidecar approach, but this new approach reduces the number of essentially proxies and parts that you're running on each node of your Kubernetes cluster.

Live recording of the complete show from June 29, 2023 is on YouTube (Ep. #223).

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  • (00:00) - Intro
  • (03:59) - How did start?
  • (21:03) - The difference between service mesh and API gateway
  • (30:55) - Where is service mesh going?
  • (41:53) - Is Ambient Mesh as secure as the sidecar model?
  • (48:11) - Opportunities after adopting Ambient Mesh
  • (53:41) - Phipps compliance
  • (55:46) - Unikernel vs WebAssembly

Creators and Guests

Bret Fisher
Bret Fisher
Cloud native DevOps Dude. Course creator, YouTuber, Podcaster. Docker Captain and CNCF Ambassador. People person who spends too much time in front of a computer.
Nirmal Mehta
Nirmal Mehta
Principal Specialist Solutions Architect at Amazon Web Services (AWS)
Beth Fisher
Beth Fisher
Producer of DevOps and Docker Talk podcast since 2019. Assistant producer on Bret Fisher Live show on YouTube. Business and proposal writer by trade.
Cristi Cotovan
Cristi Cotovan
Video editor and educational content producer. Descript and Camtasia coach.
Idit Levine
Idit Levine
Founder/CEO Idit focuses on Service Mesh, API-GW and Multi-Cloud networking, and security.
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