Future of Kubernetes with Brendan Burns

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Bret and Matt welcome special guest Brendan Burns, CVP Azure Cloud Native & Resource Management, and also a founding member of the Kubernetes project.

Because Brendan is one of the three original co-founders of the Kubernetes project back in 2013 at Google, he's a little bit internet famous in open source and Cloud Native. So I was a little nervous going into this because I had so many questions.

We took some live questions as we always do from YouTube live, and I thought it was a really great episode of a little mix of talking about Azure and some of the things you can do with containers, some of the things they're working on, some of the things that he's focused on that we haven't seen yet. We talk about AI and how that relates to some of these things.

We even talk about WASM or WebAssembly, one of my favorite topics of the last year, because that's important so it was great to get his perspective.

And I think my favorite part of the show is where we really talk about the next layers of abstraction, or maybe even the ways that we can deploy to Kubernetes or make it simpler to manage and deploy to. And that's been a real challenge for the community ever since Kubernetes was created in making it more accessible to more people, without it being so complex to manage and deal with underneath. And Brendan has some really great views on what it's going to take it to get us there.

Live recording of the complete show from June 15, 2023 is on YouTube (Ep. #221).

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  • (00:00) - Intro
  • (03:10) - Introducing Brendan
  • (08:47) - Advice for starting to run containers
  • (30:30) - Reducing complexity with AI
  • (34:41) - Addressing DevOps fatigue
  • (42:38) - Running WebAssembly on Kubernetes
  • (54:23) - LTS Linux Distributions
  • (59:28) - What's next after containers and orchestration?

Creators and Guests

Bret Fisher
Bret Fisher
Cloud native DevOps Dude. Course creator, YouTuber, Podcaster. Docker Captain and CNCF Ambassador. People person who spends too much time in front of a computer.
Matt Williams
Matt Williams
Matt is the Evangelist at Infra (a cool RBAC and remote access tool). He's also an Emcee for DevOps Days Seattle and a former organizer of DevOps Days Boston and Serverless Days Boston. He was the first Evangelist at Datadog. He has been using containers on Docker and Kubernetes since the projects started.
Beth Fisher
Beth Fisher
Producer of DevOps and Docker Talk podcast since 2019. Assistant producer on Bret Fisher Live show on YouTube. Business and proposal writer by trade.
Brendan Burns
Brendan Burns
Kubernetes co-founder. Distinguished Engineer @Azure. Board member @Wellspring_FS. My teams do APIs, Containers, Linux, Hybrid and DevOps. Opinions mine, alone.
Cristi Cotovan
Cristi Cotovan
Video editor and educational content producer. Descript and Camtasia coach.
Future of Kubernetes with Brendan Burns
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