Windows WSL and Containers in 2023

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Bret is joined by fellow Docker Captain Nuno do Carmo to talk about desktop container solutions and the best Docker setup for Windows 11.

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Nuno's a Docker Captain, Civo Ambassador, Microsoft MVP, and a big fan of Windows and Cloud Native. I've had him on the show before, because the more you use the Windows Subsystem for Linux and Docker Desktop, the more you'll want to use WSL.

Nuno helps answer many questions such as where are the Linux files stored, managing the CPU and memory resources, backing up files in WSL, getting the host Windows Explorer into the Linux filesystem, getting back to the Windows file system from the Linux shell and more!

Live recording of this show from February 23, 2023 on YouTube (Ep. #204). Includes demos.


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  • (00:00) - Intro
  • (01:29) - Episode intro
  • (03:04) - Main show
  • (03:16) - Reflecting on the Docker birthday
  • (04:02) - Bret's Maven Course
  • (04:04) - Introducing Nuno
  • (05:11) - All starts with WSL
  • (05:50) - Mac vs Windows
  • (06:10) - WSL1 and WSL2
  • (09:05) - Question Linux in VM vs WSL
  • (13:28) - Filesystems and performance
  • (15:11) - Setting yourself up for success with WSL
  • (16:14) - WSL not installed by default with Windows
  • (17:53) - Demo start
  • (18:57) - Line endings issue in the past
  • (19:33) - The tooling is WSL-aware
  • (20:37) - VHDx
  • (21:38) - Demo
  • (24:59) - Bret re-explains it
  • (27:38) - Question SSH into WSL
  • (29:49) - Question How do you make a fresh WSL VM?
  • (32:02) - Question What does mount show in Linux
  • (33:14) - Question
  • (34:05) - Taking snapshots with Raft WSL
  • (34:45) - Question distros and VHDx files
  • (36:22) - Deleting or losing your distros
  • (37:54) - Question
  • (40:22) - Ecosystem and options - the spreadsheet
  • (42:48) - Demos
  • (42:55) - Podman desktop
  • (45:37) - Comment on Red Hat on Windows
  • (46:50) - Rancher Desktop
  • (53:56) - Demo
  • (54:27) - Process isolation on Windows

Creators and Guests

Bret Fisher
Bret Fisher
Cloud native DevOps Dude. Course creator, YouTuber, Podcaster. People person who spends way to much time in front of a computer.
Beth Fisher
Beth Fisher
Producer of DevOps and Docker Talk podcast since 2019. Assistant producer on Bret Fisher Live show on YouTube. Business and proposal writer by trade.
Cristi Cotovan
Cristi Cotovan
Video editor and educational content producer. Descript and Camtasia coach.
Nuno do Carmo
Nuno do Carmo
WSL Corsair + MS MVP + Docker Captain (and fanboy) + CNCF Ambassador V1+V2 + Tech Writer @SUSE @Rancher_Labs. Proud owner of the WSL Ketelsen Hat
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